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0xngmi @0xngmi · 6 months ago

Recently $AIXBT used llamapay to handle all vesting for their token Then other tokens started airdropping to big $AIXBT holders, with many vesting contracts receiving an allocation On other vesting platforms these airdrops would be lost, but not on llamapay 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

0xngmi @0xngmi · 6 months ago

This is because for llamapay vesting, we create a new contract for each new stream, so any tokens received can be attributed to a specific stream and given to receiver Other streaming protocols use a single contract, so you can't do this and airdropped tokens are lost instead 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

Coin	Market Cap 24h Vol	Price 24h	Vol/MC	ATH %	Trade
aixbt AIXBT	98.65M$ 17.88M$	0.0998$ 0.82%	18.13%	0.9426$ -89.40%	Trade

Mad Ω ☀️🌱🐻⛓(💙,🧡)🐳 @archtuxfan · 6 months ago

Couldn't find anything about $RLB in @DefiLlama , why is that @0xngmi ? 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

0xngmi @0xngmi · 6 months ago

its impossible to verify the numbers as a third party 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

Coin	Market Cap 24h Vol	Price 24h	Vol/MC	ATH %	Trade
Rollbit Coin RLB	148.60M$ 499.71K$	0.0783$ 3.43%	0.34%	0.2644$ -70.26%	Trade

rektdiomedes @rektdiomedes · 6 months ago

TVL at all-time high's... + surging revenues... + token significantly outperforming rest of market this month... + huge new @maplefinance x Bitwise announcement... + etc + etc + etc... The ticker... is $SYRUP 💪🥞 t.co/VHRd39f8Ks 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

0xngmi @0xngmi · 6 months ago

tvl is at ath because it excludes v1 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

Coin	Market Cap 24h Vol	Price 24h	Vol/MC	ATH %	Trade
Maple Finance SYRUP	472.40M$ 22.67M$	0.4224$ -0.76%	4.8%	0.6532$ -35.14%	Trade

0xngmi @0xngmi · 7 months ago

the big revenue generators that we are missing in crypto are CEXs, but do any of them provide data or make it possible to estimate their revenue? t.co/yfYt5Wcn7a 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

Joe @0x_Osprey · 7 months ago

Only the publicly traded ones (ie $COIN) 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

0xngmi @0xngmi · 7 months ago

even then its only quarterly 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

LnsTchTps (tweet catcher mode) @solvingKasada · 7 months ago

maybe volume x their lowest fee tier to get a low-end estimate? 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

0xngmi @0xngmi · 7 months ago

they do some custom deals for MMs and such 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

Serpenseth @serpenseth · 7 months ago

I believe Binance has a report of their earnings (unless I am delusional, which would be no surprise) 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

0xngmi @0xngmi · 7 months ago

where? 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

Kasper Vandeloock @kasperloock · 7 months ago

even if you could estimate it based on volume it would not include listing fee, internal trading desk, general crime, bullshit like "profit clawback" or whatever the term is & more 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

0xngmi @0xngmi · 7 months ago

whats profit clawback? 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

Kasper Vandeloock @kasperloock · 7 months ago

mexc would do "profit clawback" if you had a profitable trading perp position and just take away ur pnl perhaps it was some other term but basically if you were too profitable they would take away your pnl or as green shid would say, its business 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

0xngmi @0xngmi · 7 months ago

what happens to the counterparty that sold you the contract tho? does that trade get reverted? 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

Coin	Market Cap 24h Vol	Price 24h	Vol/MC	ATH %	Trade
Coin on Base COIN	696.49K$ 42.22K$	0.000007$ -17.64%	6.06%	0.000094$ -92.43%	Trade

Cryptoyieldinfo @Cryptoyieldinfo · 7 months ago

ie. they need to buy $1.46 billion of $ETH t.co/IqOdaQGxIt 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

0xngmi @0xngmi · 7 months ago

mantle treasury has >500m of eth so maybe less if they use it 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

Coin	Market Cap 24h Vol	Price 24h	Vol/MC	ATH %	Trade
Ethereum ETH	551.39B$ 27.48B$	4.57K$ 1.48%	4.98%	4.95K$ -7.54%	Trade

WazzB @WazzBack · 7 months ago

Will prob use my $KAITO airdrop to fund my blackmarket twitter acct recovery lul, state of things 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

0xngmi @0xngmi · 7 months ago

is it that expensive? 5figs? 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

Coin	Market Cap 24h Vol	Price 24h	Vol/MC	ATH %	Trade
KAITO KAITO	339.60M$ 22.05M$	1.41$ -0.50%	6.49%	2.88$ -51.19%	Trade

nairolf @0xNairolf · 7 months ago

(not so) hot take: the retention of people onboarded in crypto by memecoins is near zero 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

0xngmi @0xngmi · 7 months ago

i doubt its that low across all of them, but the data on the ppl onboarded on moonshot through $TRUMP shows that retention was very low for that cohort t.co/m5lYg14VQw 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

Coin	Market Cap 24h Vol	Price 24h	Vol/MC	ATH %	Trade
Official Trump TRUMP	1.57B$ 226.40M$	7.85$ 0.80%	14.41%	73.43$ -89.30%	Trade

0xngmi @0xngmi · 7 months ago

this is their fee chart it has abysmal retention, the huge spike came from new users that wanted to buy $TRUMP and the official $TRUMP webpage linked to moonshot to buy it That's 6 figs of new crypto users who churned fast af and got burned t.co/yzd1v4xUIV 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

0xngmi @0xngmi · 7 months ago

User onboarding previous cycles: Go to binance, get charged 0.1% per trade User onboarding now for users trading $TRUMP: Go to moonshot, get charged >2.5% per trade imo this is because ppl see the memecoin casino as unsustainable and want to make as much as possible before music 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

mewny @mewn21 · 7 months ago

2.5% fee is absurd but also kinda chad if it hasnt reduced customer flow 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

Coin	Market Cap 24h Vol	Price 24h	Vol/MC	ATH %	Trade
Official Trump TRUMP	1.57B$ 226.40M$	7.85$ 0.80%	14.41%	73.43$ -89.30%	Trade

Keisan.hl @Keisan_Crypto · 8 months ago

Can people please stop posting screenshots of $HYPE on DefiLlama quoting that it is # xyz in fees? I get the excitement, but it is inaccurate and severely misrepresents how much more Hyperliquid actually does in "profit" versus the rest of these protocols. I'll go 1 by 1: 1. t.co/56oN3znCkb 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

0xngmi @0xngmi · 8 months ago

we have a "Revenue" column exactly for that reason! its already a solved problem its just that ppl like to share fees 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

elgigi @LGdanuT · 8 months ago

He's talking about how much of the revenue actually benefits the token holders. 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

0xngmi @0xngmi · 8 months ago

we also have a column for that 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

elgigi @LGdanuT · 8 months ago

whats it called? 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

0xngmi @0xngmi · 8 months ago

Holders Revenue, its next to fees and revenue t.co/CUHFZybeff 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

elgigi @LGdanuT · 8 months ago

Thanks, its pretty incomplete tho. Many protocols not showing anything. 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

0xngmi @0xngmi · 8 months ago

in most cases is because theres just no holder revenue being distributed (eg goes to treasury instead), other cases we havent filled that out yet 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

Keisan.hl @Keisan_Crypto · 8 months ago

Thank you, @0xngmi indeed you do. I realized after and removed my request for you to add it. In any case, as you mentioned, for some reason people just like to share fees (maybe they don't see the revenue column since it's under advanced?) So I am hoping to raise awareness here 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

0xngmi @0xngmi · 8 months ago

checking pendle it seems that we track all the tokens going to treasury as revenue and fees is that + LP fees (which is almost nothing), but will check more about the separation between treasury and token holders, thats what the column "Holders Revenue" is meant to address 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

Coin	Market Cap 24h Vol	Price 24h	Vol/MC	ATH %	Trade
Hyperliquid HYPE	13.68B$ 378.16M$	50.44$ 3.13%	2.77%	59.30$ -14.83%	Trade

0xGeeGee @0xGeeGee · 8 months ago

Honestly a bit surprised that $KNC didn't react AT ALL but that's the tune these days t.co/8RtGeW7M4Z 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

0xngmi @0xngmi · 8 months ago

i think there's no news? the guy was already on the run from the court and he himself admitted to doing it 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

monetsupply.eth @MonetSupply · 8 months ago

thought the canadians let him off or never charged him? 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

0xngmi @0xngmi · 8 months ago

afaik he was under contempt of court 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

0xGeeGee @0xGeeGee · 8 months ago

Only dust of the money was recovered until now though I think? or am I wrong 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

0xngmi @0xngmi · 8 months ago

yeah no recovery, after the hack the money actually went down in value and then the hacker himself got hacked, so even if they catch him now recovery is unlikely afaik 2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump2VFK9h3fBrVJNficF6Yu4xkADhL4Mt7uFiSZhRpepump

Coin	Market Cap 24h Vol	Price 24h	Vol/MC	ATH %	Trade
Kyber Network Crystal KNC	58.17M$ 6.20M$	0.3418$ 0.15%	10.65%	5.70$ -93.99%	Trade

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